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    LONDEN - De erfgenamen van een overleden Brit van 89 hebben in diens garage een waardevolle verrassing gevonden: een zeldzame Bugatti uit 1937, die miljoenen waard is.

    De overleden man, een arts die teruggetrokken leefde, kocht de Bugatti in de jaren vijftig, maar gebruikte hem slechts enkele jaren.

    Sinds 1960 stond de auto in zijn garage in het Engelse Newcastle, met 42.299 kilometers op de teller, aldus Britse media vrijdag.

    Exemplaren

    Er zijn maar zeventien exemplaren gebouwd van het type Bugatti 57S Atalante. De oldtimer wordt in februari in Parijs geveild. Volgens deskundigen kan dan voor het eerst een prijs van meer dan 5 miljoen euro worden behaald voor een auto.

    (bron www.nu.nl)
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  • #2
    En dat is reactie nummer drie... :-)
    Veritatis simplex oratio est

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    • #3
      Is het nu mooi, of triest dat dat nog kan?
      fka v164

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      • #4
        qte...
        James Knight, international head of the Bonhams motoring department, said Dr Carr's Bugatti was 'one of the last great barn discoveries'.
        He added: 'I have known of this Bugatti for a number of years and, like a select group of others, hadn't dared divulge its whereabouts to anyone.
        ...unqte
        rest van het verhaal, met piccies at
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-supercar.html
        Last edited by levensnevel; 03-01-09, 07:34.
        Toyota Prius 2 - my 09 - editione Tech - 203K+54K km

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        • #5
          57 s

          Bugatti bouwde af fabriek 17 exemplaren van deze Atalante S. Ik denk dus, dat een opbrengst vab € 5.000.000,-- een lage schatting is. In Bugattikringen worden al hogere bedragen genoemd.

          Bugatti bouwde nog een uniekere uitvoering van de Atalante; de SC. en deze was tot 1990 in bezit van Michel Dovaz. Hiervan is er slechts ιιn exemplaar en deze bevindt zich - volledig gerestaureerd inclusief de bij Dovaz gestolen vooras en versnellingsbaak - in Duitse handen. Ik heb er in vertrouwen (sorry) foto's van gekregen.

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          • #6
            Mooi dus!
            fka v164

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            • #7
              #57502

              We hebben de bolide al getraceerd. Het is de 57502. Insiders wisten al jaren, dat Harold Carr deze bolide had. Ik hoorde er zelf van een week na onze boepresentatie. Mijn inschatting - op grond van een eerdere verkoop van een Atalante S - , dat deze auto, mede op grond van het spektakel wat er nu omheen gemaakt wordt (dat doen ze heel goed, die erfgenamen), tenminste 7,5 mln. euro zal opbrengen.

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              • #8
                Ook nu de pond, yen en dollar erg zwak zijn? Een groot deel van de doelgroep denkt/biedt/betaalt toch in die valuta en dat zal de prijs in euro's geen goed doen.

                Maar het is een hele bijzondere auto en schitterend om te zien in huidige staat en als 'ie straks perfect is gerestaureerd (en dan hopelijk snel weer 'oud' wordt).

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                • #9
                  Bij dit soort handel heeft de ervaring geleerd, dat effecten van een crisis vaak pas na ongeveer een jaar merkbaar worden.

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                  • #10
                    a.u.b. niet restaureren

                    Deze Atalante S is uit 1937. Hij werd in 1937 gekocht door Lord Earl Howe, die hem in 1947 doorverkocht aan J.P. Tingay. In 1950 kwam de auto in handen van M.H. Ferguson, in 1954/55 maakte de auto deel uit van de Lord Ridley collection. In 1955 kwam de Atalante in het bezit van Dr. Harold Carr, die in 2007 overleed. De auto is Engeland dus nooit uit geweest. Het is een type 57 S (+C). Op 7 februari 2009 zal Bonhams de auto in Parijs veilen op de Retromobile. Een extra reden om daar heen te gaan.

                    Dit is dus typisch weer een van die auto's, die nooit gerestaureerd mogen worden. Dit verhaal mag nooit door concoursstaat of blinkende lak verdoezeld worden. Deze auto moet net als de meeste Bugatti's van Arlette Schlumpf ongerestaureerd tentoon gesteld worden. Peter Mullin, die dit jaar deze auto's kocht, heeft dit begrepen.

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                    • #11
                      Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door ard Bekijk bericht
                      Bij dit soort handel heeft de ervaring geleerd, dat effecten van een crisis vaak pas na ongeveer een jaar merkbaar worden.
                      Mwoah, ik wil nog wel een stapje verder gaan: de werkelijke kopersschare voor deze Bugatti weet alleen uit de krant dat het crisis is. En even 5 miljoen aftikken voor een buitenkansje, dat kan met goed en slecht weer. :)
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                      • #12
                        Gaaf man!
                        Ik vind het mooi dat dit nog steeds kan, ondanks dat echte barnfinds zelden nog 'echt' zijn.

                        Verder is de markt voor zeer speciale klassieke auto's juist booming op dit moment. Die mensen willen hun geld ergens veilig kwijt en dat kan met schilderijen en andere kunstwerken zoals zo'n Bugatti heel erg goed.

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                        • #13
                          'Black Bess' (T18 1913)

                          Op dezelfde veiling (8 februari) komt ook de "Black Bess", een T18 uit 1913 onder de hamer. Nog een reden om in februari richting Parijs te gaan. De auto is van Roland Garros geweest.
                          Last edited by ard; 23-04-09, 15:23.

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                          • #14
                            Bonhams

                            Wellicht ook aardige info over de Bugatti.

                            TV/PHOTO CALL: EX-EARL HOWE BUGATTI 'BARN-FIND' TO HEADLINE BONHAMS RETROMOBILE SALE

                            One of the most important motor cars in the world emerges from its secret hideaway for the first time in 50 years.

                            TV/PHOTO/
                            PRESS PREVIEW: FRIDAY 9 JANUARY 2009

                            TIME: 10AM – 4PM

                            VENUE: THE PHOENIX GREEN GARAGE, PHONIX GREEN,
                            HARTLEY WINTNEY, RG27 8RT

                            The 1937 Bugatti Type 57S originally owned by Earl Howe, whose existence has only been known to a handful of people during the last 50 years will be sold at Bonhams' Retromobile sale in Paris on 7 February 2009. This highly significant motor car is estimated at €2.75 – 4 million.

                            Both the car and Bonhams' International Managing Director of Motoring, James Knight will be available on the press preview day (9 February). For press accreditation, please contact: Josephine Olley on +44 (0)207 468 8229 or email: [email protected] .


                            The Bugatti with Atalante coachwork retains all the attributes that will ensure its appeal to the world's most discerning collectors. It has a spectacular provenance having been owned by Earl Howe, Lord Ridley, Harold Carr and others; it has a continuous and chronicled history; and it has exceptional originality retaining original chassis, engine, drivetrain and body. It even has what appears to be a remarkably low mileage with an odometer reading of just 26,284.

                            James Knight, International Head of Bonhams' motoring department said: "I have known of this Bugatti for a number of years and, like a select group of others, hadn't dared divulge its whereabouts to anyone. It is absolutely one of the last great barn discoveries, and we at Bonhams are honoured to have been selected to handle its sale."

                            Bugatti Type 57S, chassis no. 57502, was completed at the Bugatti works on 5 May, 1937 sporting two-seat Atalante coupe coachwork. It was ordered new by no less than the motor sport great – and the BRDC's (British Racing Driver's Club) first President - Earl Howe via UK Bugatti agents, Sorel of London. Howe had a long association with Ettore Bugatti and his machines, and developed a close friendship with Ettore and his son Jean, having raced their Grand Prix motor cars.

                            Earl Howe took delivery of 57502 on the 9 June 1937 and was to retain his Bugatti for over eight years. He added a personal touch by fitting his own bumpers, rear-view mirrors on the A-pillars and a luggage rack, which it still retains to this day. It was to become his personal companion, escorting him to Brooklands and other race meetings. The car would have seen relatively little use during the Second World War as Earl Howe served with the Royal Navy Volunteer Reserve.

                            After hostilities ceased, the T57S was sold via Continental Cars to a Mr J P Tingay in 1947. It was Tingay who effectively brought the car to 'SC' specification by fitting a Marshall K200 supercharger – as finding an original Bugatti blower proved nigh on impossible so soon after the War.

                            Mr M H Ferguson acquired the Bugatti from Tingay in 1950 and by 1954 it formed part of Lord Ridley's collection. Dr Harold Carr then acquired it in 1955 from Lord Ridley. Dr Carr drove the car for the first few years but in the early 1960s it was parked in his garage where it remained for nearly 50 years, until Dr Carr's death in 2007. The T57S is being sold on behalf of the family of Dr Carr, and will be offered with an extensive file of correspondence documenting its fascinating history.

                            James Knight said: "The Atalante is incredibly original and, although she requires restoration, it is "restoration" in the true sense of the word. From my perspective, save for some of the interior, all original parts can be restored or conserved in order to maintain originality. It offers a truly rewarding project to the new owner - who will join a select list of distinguished owners – to play such an integral part in bringing this wonderful motor car back to life. It has all the finest attributes any connoisseur collector could ever seek in one of the ultimate road-going sports cars from the golden era of the 1930s."


                            Background: The Type 57S model:
                            Two years after the introduction of Bugatti's 1930s masterpiece the Type 57, the model evolved into its definitive form as the 'S' or 'competition model'. Increased performance and a lowered centre of gravity created by running the car's rear axle through the chassis, produced not only an out-and-out sports car, but a ground-hugging chassis line, ideal for creating the most wind-cheating and aerodynamic bodywork designs yet seen.

                            Unquestionably the design for which the model is best known is the Atlantic coupe, in which form the model debuted at the Paris Salon in 1935 and it was further refined before production 'S's left the factory in September of the following year. By May 1937 when this chassis 57502 was delivered, the company could cite a string of international class speed records, and Grand Prix wins. These would be capped with a Le Mans win later that year.

                            Historians state six racing or prototypes were built before production of the 57S began in earnest, but even throughout its three year run a mere 17 Atalantes were constructed. The streamlined Atlantic was carefully honed into a svelte coupe with the derived named Atalante, and this proved to be the design of choice to grace these chassis. However even a designated name didn't mean uniformity as each car was handcrafted and as attested to today, each had its own particular style and detail.

                            Background: Earl Howe
                            Francis Curzon, the fifth Earl Howe was synonymous with the best pre-war sports cars. A keen amateur racing driver who succeeded to the Peerage in 1929, he encouraged Dudley Benjafield to found the British Racing Driver's Club and was elected its first President that same year. He retained this post until his death in 1964.

                            A close associate of the 'Bentley Boys' after the marque's retirement from racing he continued their quest for success in endurance racing, partnering Sir Henry Birkin in an Alfa Romeo to win the 1931 Le Mans, arguably his greatest achievement.

                            As a successful competitor who could not afford to indulge his motor sport passion, he was surrounded by a wealth of friends and knowledgeable enthusiasts to guide him to the very finest and most suitable mount for a race, event or simply to enjoy the road with. That he owned a Type 57S says a lot, that he kept this very same car for 8 years, says even more…..

                            Background: Rarity
                            These fabulous cars are coveted as much now as they were when new. The passion for collecting the 57S has passed from the luminaries of the 1930s, such as Malcolm Campbell to the great collectors of the twenty-first century, with the most passionate - Ralph Lauren among them - possessing more than one, and very few ever parting with them.

                            The market supply is further diminished by the fact that a fifth of all production resides in the Musee Nationale de L'Automobile in Mulhouse, France including a quarter of all Atalantes built.

                            Even within this thin air, chassis 57502 has characteristics which may well make it the most interesting of all the 57S cars, for as it stands today it combines an impeccable provenance with that most prized quality of total originality, having been virtually untouched and unused since the early 1960s.

                            For further information contact: [email protected] or visit the website www.bonhams.com/cars
                            Last edited by Harry; 06-01-09, 13:53.

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                            • #15
                              Bonhams

                              Je moet ook nooit iets tijdens je werk doen. Honhams moet uiteraard Bonhams zijn.

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                              • #16
                                Ik weet niet wat je bedoelt, Ard.

                                ;-)

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                                • #17
                                  Zo mag ik het horen!

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                                  • #18
                                    Voor de liefhebbers:

                                    Info over #57502:

                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8SE0JyOqTM

                                    Korte films over Bugatti T57 Atalante #57766.
                                    Gevonden in de buurt van New York en geveild oktober 2008 voor 660.000 pond.

                                    http://turbo.discovery.com/beyond/?p...eId=1713669537
                                    http://turbo.discovery.com/beyond/?p...eId=1713669541

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                                    • #19
                                      En nu blijkbaar verkocht voor € 3.100.000,--!

                                      http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...&iSaleNo=17043
                                      Last edited by MGB; 08-02-09, 18:19.
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